League Gripes

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Lebron James
295 LeBron James SF 22 6'8'' 240 A- B- B A C+ B
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295 LeBron James SF 22 6'8'' 240 A+ B+ B+ A B B

Greed: from 93 to 43

in 2005-2006 season he averaged 7 rebounds per game
He also average 6.6 assists per game as well as
On top of that he averaged 31 points per game, which in here you needed like A- and A- for Kobe to get it in 39 mpg, so obviously Lebron who averaged it needs an upgrade

Greed? Why? because i own, and found out that not only did he take a discount for the heat meaning money wasn't an issue, but he also went to the cavs and did a sign and trade to get them 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and a trade exception, whats greedy about that?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

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Lebron wrote:: Lebron James
295 LeBron James SF 22 6'8'' 240 A- B- B A C+ B
to
295 LeBron James SF 22 6'8'' 240 A+ B+ B+ A B B

Greed: from 93 to 43

in 2005-2006 season he averaged 7 rebounds per game
He also average 6.6 assists per game as well as
On top of that he averaged 31 points per game, which in here you needed like A- and A- for Kobe to get it in 39 mpg, so obviously Lebron who averaged it needs an upgrade

Greed? Why? because i own, and found out that not only did he take a discount for the heat meaning money wasn't an issue, but he also went to the cavs and did a sign and trade to get them 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and a trade exception, whats greedy about that?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

No.

Greed can be 63. bounce

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James left Miami to have two superstars around him. How more greedy can that be? It should be 263.

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Coltsown4show wrote:: James left Miami to have two superstars around him. How more greedy can that be? It should be 263.

Lols...

Took less money to do it. bounce

So his play for winner should be 263. tongue

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Well give him 0 greed and 263 play for winner and he is bound to come to PHO for an lle.

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Coltsown4show wrote:: Well give him 0 greed and 263 play for winner and he is bound to come to PHO for an lle.

Then he can be 2nd string C,PF,SF,SG, and PG, and be both sixth man of the year and MVP!!!! :O

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Nah I'd just put him on IR for a good laugh.

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Yao Ming C 26 7'6'' 310 A- C- D+ A- B- C Old

Yao Ming C 26 7'6'' 310 A- C- D+ A B+ C New

He averaged 25/9/2 blocks per game this season and this was his most productive season scoring wise. His defense was great this season and he averages around 2 blocks a game and 2 blocks for his career. Also I was somewhat concerned about is rebounding being a B- I figured averaging 10 rebounds are so you should atleast have a B. I mean Dwight has better defensive ratings and Yao this season was just as good maybe even better. But its your call I just feel he should be improved somewhat.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html

Also his loyalty should be atleast an 80 lol. He is so loyal to the rockets organization and in general.

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331 Rashard Lewis SF 27 6'10'' 215 B- A- C C C B Old

331 Rashard Lewis SF 27 6'10'' 215 B- A C C C B New

Rashard Lewis averaged 22 PPG this season and was money from everywhere. Shot 46% FG and 39% 3 from deep, shooting BETTER than Ray Allen. He shot 6.5 3PA a game and made 2.5 of them, so you know he shot a lot of made and made a lot back too. All I want is that A Outside Razz

. He's expiring anyways. I just felt like making ONE gripe.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lewisra02.html

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Michael Redd SG 27 6'6'' 220 B B+ C C+ D C Old
Michael Redd SG 27 6'6'' 220 B A C+ C+ D C New

Reasons is he scored 26.7ppg that season with 38% from the 3pt line wich is pretty good he also shot 82% from the FT line wich is good to he was one of the best 3pt shooters in the league even tho 38% from the 3pt line doesnt look good but he was a good shooter also C+ handles sound more reasonable for redd he wasnt a bad passer

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddmi01.html

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http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rondora01.html

rondo is with 5.9 reb per 36 min so his reb should up to C+

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delnote
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westde01.html
a 4.9apg for a sg is quite good
B- handles should reflects this

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MateoMancini33 wrote:: Yao Ming C 26 7'6'' 310 A- C- D+ A- B- C Old

Yao Ming C 26 7'6'' 310 A- C- D+ A B+ C New

He averaged 25/9/2 blocks per game this season and this was his most productive season scoring wise. His defense was great this season and he averages around 2 blocks a game and 2 blocks for his career. Also I was somewhat concerned about is rebounding being a B- I figured averaging 10 rebounds are so you should atleast have a B. I mean Dwight has better defensive ratings and Yao this season was just as good maybe even better. But its your call I just feel he should be improved somewhat.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mingya01.html

Also his loyalty should be atleast an 80 lol. He is so loyal to the rockets organization and in general.

He'll stay the same, except that I'll give ya the loyalty.

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Jesus Shuttlesworth wrote:: 331 Rashard Lewis SF 27 6'10'' 215 B- A- C C C B Old

331 Rashard Lewis SF 27 6'10'' 215 B- A C C C B New

Rashard Lewis averaged 22 PPG this season and was money from everywhere. Shot 46% FG and 39% 3 from deep, shooting BETTER than Ray Allen. He shot 6.5 3PA a game and made 2.5 of them, so you know he shot a lot of made and made a lot back too. All I want is that A Outside . He's expiring anyways. I just felt like making ONE gripe.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lewisra02.html

He's fine. tongue

His jumpshot is what prevents an A outside. He had a really good 3PT rating.

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TurkOz wrote:: Michael Redd SG 27 6'6'' 220 B B+ C C+ D C Old
Michael Redd SG 27 6'6'' 220 B A C+ C+ D C New

Reasons is he scored 26.7ppg that season with 38% from the 3pt line wich is pretty good he also shot 82% from the FT line wich is good to he was one of the best 3pt shooters in the league even tho 38% from the 3pt line doesnt look good but he was a good shooter also C+ handles sound more reasonable for redd he wasnt a bad passer

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddmi01.html

His outside is fine. So is his handles, since he had a 2.3 APG average, and a 2.3 TOPG average.

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stephenlion wrote:: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rondora01.html

rondo is with 5.9 reb per 36 min so his reb should up to C+

No. Plus, it was 5.7 reb per 36.. PSH get it right.

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stephenlion wrote:: delnote
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/westde01.html
a 4.9apg for a sg is quite good
B- handles should reflects this

Sounds good. B- it is.

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Elton Brand PF 27 6'8'' 275 B C C- A- B- B
Elton Brand PF 27 6'8'' 275 B+ C C- A B- B
20.5 PPG on .533 FG%... still one of the best posts in the league at this point in his career.
Clippers ranked 10th in the league in Defensive rating in 06-07 (105.7) and Brand led the team in that category (103). Also, averaged 2.2 blocks and 1 steal per game.

Corey Maggette SF 27 6'6'' 218 A- C C C+ C+ C
Corey Maggette SF 27 6'6'' 218 A- C+ C B- C+ C
Shot 82% from the line. Didn't have much succes from beyond the arc in 06-07, but that season is sandwiched between two years of decent 3pt shooting. He's been streaky on a year-to-year basis shooting 3s. From my experience C+ outside can result in a decent 3pt%, or a terrible one, and that's exactly how Maggette should be.
As I mentioned before, the Clippers were 10th in D Rating. However, they have pretty awful defense on these rosters, besides Brand. Maggette had a D rating of 106 and that's not an awful number. I know that Maggette has a reputation for being a bad defender. But is it impossible that at his peak he was an average defender?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/maggeco01.html

Chris Kaman C 24 7'0'' 268 B- C- D+ B- B- B
Chris Kaman C 24 7'0'' 268 B- C- D+ B+ B- B
2 blocks per 36 minutes
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kamanch01.html

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Pacers Gripes:

Al Harrington:
C+ A- D+ C C C

TO
B- B+ C- B- B C

Harrington was the 2nd leading scorer on the Pacers in the 06-07 season with 16ppg on 45% shooting. The ratings should get that, but I would just like more emphasis on the inside game since Harrington was primarily an inside scorer (from FT line in)

Danny Granger:
Defense: B
to
Defense B+

Granger coming in was known as a defensive player, Only later did he sacrifice his defense to become the Pacers leading scorer. After the Artest trade, he was the one who was asked to defend the opponents best scorer.

Marquis Daniels
Defense: C
to
Defense: B

Daniels is a scrub, no other way to look at it, but has always been known as a defensive player, especially in his time with Dallas (this being his 1st season as a Pacer)

Thats pretty much it, not big changes.

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Bartolo Colon wrote:: Elton Brand PF 27 6'8'' 275 B C C- A- B- B
Elton Brand PF 27 6'8'' 275 B+ C C- A B- B
20.5 PPG on .533 FG%... still one of the best posts in the league at this point in his career.
Clippers ranked 10th in the league in Defensive rating in 06-07 (105.7) and Brand led the team in that category (103). Also, averaged 2.2 blocks and 1 steal per game.

Corey Maggette SF 27 6'6'' 218 A- C C C+ C+ C
Corey Maggette SF 27 6'6'' 218 A- C+ C B- C+ C
Shot 82% from the line. Didn't have much succes from beyond the arc in 06-07, but that season is sandwiched between two years of decent 3pt shooting. He's been streaky on a year-to-year basis shooting 3s. From my experience C+ outside can result in a decent 3pt%, or a terrible one, and that's exactly how Maggette should be.
As I mentioned before, the Clippers were 10th in D Rating. However, they have pretty awful defense on these rosters, besides Brand. Maggette had a D rating of 106 and that's not an awful number. I know that Maggette has a reputation for being a bad defender. But is it impossible that at his peak he was an average defender?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/maggeco01.html

Chris Kaman C 24 7'0'' 268 B- C- D+ B- B- B
Chris Kaman C 24 7'0'' 268 B- C- D+ B+ B- B
2 blocks per 36 minutes
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kamanch01.html

Brand B+ inside, Defense stays
I'll give Maggette a slight boost in 3PT shooting, but C+ is not promised, and I'll give him the B- D.

Kaman will get B defense.

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PGeorge24 wrote:: Pacers Gripes:

Al Harrington:
C+ A- D+ C C C

TO
B- B+ C- B- B C

Harrington was the 2nd leading scorer on the Pacers in the 06-07 season with 16ppg on 45% shooting. The ratings should get that, but I would just like more emphasis on the inside game since Harrington was primarily an inside scorer (from FT line in)

Danny Granger:
Defense: B
to
Defense B+

Granger coming in was known as a defensive player, Only later did he sacrifice his defense to become the Pacers leading scorer. After the Artest trade, he was the one who was asked to defend the opponents best scorer.

Marquis Daniels
Defense: C
to
Defense: B

Daniels is a scrub, no other way to look at it, but has always been known as a defensive player, especially in his time with Dallas (this being his 1st season as a Pacer)

Thats pretty much it, not big changes.

Harrington will be B- B+ D+ C+ C.

Granger stays

Daniels will get B defense. I wonder why I gave him C+... Must've been tired and rushed it a bit. Razz

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410 Aleksandar Pavlovic SF 23 6'7'' 210 C B C- C+ C- C
410 Sasha Pavlovic SF 23 6'8'' 220 C+ B C B C- C

First I want him changed to Sasha Pavlovic so I don't keep on getting confused as hell. He's also 6'8 220 lbs.

Sasha, while not known for his scoring, pulled off 9 PPG in 22.9 MPG on a stacked Cavs team. 14.2 Points per 36 min, I think that deserves C+ inside. He also dished out 1.6 assists in that amount of time while playing mostly SG, I think that can get him C handles (he also got 1.5 turnovers, I don't think his handling should go up, just enough passing to get to C). He got 2.3 defensive win shares while getting 0.8 steals a game so I think at least B- defense, if not B, should be reasonable.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pavloal01.html

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392 Mehmet Okur C 27 6'11'' 249 B- B C- C+ C+ C

392 Mehmet Okur C 27 6'11'' 249 B- B C- C+ B- C

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/okurme01.html

Per 36 minutes, Okur is the third best rebounder on the team, grabbing 7.8 boards per36. His career average of 8.7 per36 goes to show that this season was an aberration, and actually lower than his average. I think doing the minor favor of raising his rebounding by this small amount is justified. Thank you.

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Andrea Bargani
C+ A- D C+ D+ A
B- A- D B- or bumped D+ A

We all know Bargnani is one of the better NBA scorers.

In just his rookie season he averaged 11 ppg in 25 mpg

which would be 16 ppg in 36 mpg as a non option.

In his rookie season he averaged 0.5 spg and 0.8 bpg in those 25 minutes.

Which would be 0.7 spg 1.2 bpg in 36 mpg.

(He was 21 in his rookie season, which he is right now thats why i used his rookie stats)

Also a small rebounding bump because he is able of averaging 5-6 rpg (Not to C-)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bargnan01.html

TJ FORD
B- C+ A- B+ C- A
B C+ A- B+ C- A

Averaged 14 ppg in 29 mpg

12 ppg in 23 minutes just the next season

so the second season would be 17 ppg per 36
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/fordtj01.html

pls v
Also his loyalty bumped.

I do not understand how his POW realistically is higher than his loyalty

the only winning team he played for was spurs for his last year.

If he was all POW he wouldn't have signed to raps.

Jose
C B A- C+ D+ C
C+ A- B- or B D+ C

Averaged 0.8 spg in 21 mpg in his second season

and in his rookie years from his 3p% not most of his points came from the 3pt.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/caldejo01.html

Radoslav
C+ C- D+ B+ C+ C
B- C- D+ B+ C+ C

Averaged 13 ppg in 36 mpg as non option base on 07-08 stats

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nestera01.html

Bosh
B+ C C- B- B- B
A- C C- B- B or B+ B

06-07 season averaged 22.6 ppg 9.2 rpg

in 07-08 season averaged 22.7 ppg and 10.0 rpg

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html

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Zach you might want to edit your gripes. This is the 06-07 season, not 07-08.

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